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Thursday, March 31, 2011

I Reported Harassment and Now HR Wants to Meet With Me. What Do I Do?

            I know it seems scary to report sexual, racial, or other harassment to human resources. It’s even scarier when they call and tell you they’ve set up a meeting with their lawyer and you. Some employees want to refuse or delay this meeting. But being called into a meeting like this is actually a good sign. It means your employer is doing what they’re supposed to do. (Either that, or you’re being set up to be fired, but let’s stay optimistic).

            The Supreme Court says you must report discriminatory harassment under the company’s published harassment policy and give the company a chance to fix the situation. No excuses accepted, no exceptions made. (In Supreme-land, nobody is ever justifiably afraid of being beaten to a pulp, fired, demoted, or made miserable if they complain).Yeah, yeah, I know. But it's not my rule. You still have to do it.

Once the employer receives a report of discrimination or discriminatory harassment, they are supposed to conduct a reasonable investigation. If the discrimination or harassment has occurred, they must take prompt action to correct the situation. Plus, they’re now on notice that someone in their company has a propensity toward illegal behavior.

            With a little preparation and a little backbone, this meeting may be just what you need to make your work life peaceful again. Here are some do’s and don’ts for that meeting.

            DO
  • Put your complaint in writing if you haven’t already. Make sure you call it a “Formal Complaint of Racial [or Sexual/Age-Based/National Origin, etc.] Harassment [or Discrimination].” That way they can't claim later you only reported general harassment or bullying.
  • Make notes to take with you. Write down everything that was said or done where you were singled out for harassment or different treatment due to your race, age, sex, national origin, pregnancy, color, genetic information, religion or other protected status.
  •  If any comments were made about your protected status, write those down too.
  • Were you denied a raise, paid less, denied a promotion, or disciplined when others in a different category (different race, different sex, younger, non-disabled, etc.) were treated better? Write it down.
  • Try to recall dates, who made the statement or singled you out, witnesses, and as much detail as you can provide. If you don’t recall an exact date, it’s okay to write down “around May” or “last Spring.” Do the best you can. Write it all down so you remember.
  • Write down names of everyone in your same category (same race, same sex, etc.) who was also treated badly.
  • Write down names of everyone in a different category from you who was treated better.
  • If you have written proof – emails, memos, photos, recordings (not illegal tape recordings of conversations though), or other documents, gather them to bring to the meeting. Be organized. You’ll be more believable and you’ll look professional.
  •  Take good notes of the questions asked and the answers you gave.
  • If you have an attorney already, let them know about the meeting. While they may not be allowed to attend, they might ask if they can. At the very least, they might give you some tips on what to say and what to expect. They may have their own do’s and don’ts they want to go over with you. If you're represented, the company attorney can't meet with you without your lawyer's permission.
  •  If you’re a member of a union, tell your union representative. They’ll probably want to be with you.
  •  Stick to your guns. If they try to get you to change your story, say it wasn’t due to race/age/sex, etc. but something else, don’t cave.
  • Ask if you can see the investigative report once it’s complete.
  • If you remember something after the meeting, think you didn’t have an opportunity to present everything, or want to clarify something, do write a memorandum to the people who attended the meeting laying out the details you want to add, so you have proof.

            DON’T

  • Don’t tell your coworkers about your complaint or start bad-mouthing anyone. Your complaint is supposed to be confidential. The employer might discipline or fire you for violating confidentiality.
  • Don’t talk about unfair treatment, general harassment, personality conflicts or bullying. Those aren’t illegal. Make sure to focus on your complaint.
  • Don’t use illegal recordings. If you recorded a conversation with your harasser and the harasser didn’t know about it, in some states you may have committed a crime.
  • Don’t insist on having an attorney present, to the extent you refuse to attend the meeting. Most companies won’t allow you to bring an attorney with you to an internal investigation. If you refuse to cooperate, they’ll have a nice defense to your claim and they might say you were insubordinate.
  • Don’t concede that the reason the person you’re complaining about did something is they dislike everyone. If you are asked why the discriminating person did something to you, the answer is almost always, “Because of my race/age/sex, etc.” or “To retaliate against me for reporting discrimination.” If you say it’s because they’re a bully, you’re giving the legal department ammunition to say the person is an “equal opportunity harasser” who is mean to everyone.
  • Don’t be evasive or try to play word games. You’ll look like a liar.
  • Don’t ask for severance. They’ll claim you quit. If they ask what you want, say you want to work in a place that is free of discrimination/sexual harassment/racial harassment, etc. Don’t quit. If they fire you, contact a lawyer.
  • Don’t demand the harasser be fired. They don’t have to discipline this person in any particular way. Don’t put yourself in a situation where you make them say that they have nowhere to put you in light of your demands.
  •  Don’t yell, be insubordinate, be rude, or act unprofessionally. You’ll just give them a legitimate reason to fire you.
  • Don’t refuse to come back to work. You have to work, or they’ll say you abandoned your position.
  • Don’t forget that HR and the corporate attorney are there to protect your employer, not you. You shouldn’t say or do that could get you disciplined or fired.
  • Don’t give the company your only copy of anything. Make sure you have copies of your notes, evidence, witness lists, etc.
  • Don’t freak out when they start interviewing coworkers. They’re supposed to do that. They have to investigate what you’re saying. That means the harasser will probably find out about your complaint.
  • Don’t get upset if they say they won’t give you a copy of the investigative report or let you know their conclusions. Some employers will, some won’t. If you end up having to sue, EEOC and your lawyer will be able to get the report.
  • Don’t be surprised if they say they conclude there was no discrimination or illegal harassment. Very few HR people or lawyers will admit anything in writing. Even if the official report says it didn’t happen, the harasser might have been warned or disciplined in some way.
Once the interview is done, you need to be patient. If you encounter more discrimination/discriminatory harassment, or if you are retaliated against for complaining, report it in writing to HR.

Most employers take discrimination complaints seriously and try to do the right thing. If you go into your meeting prepared, have your proof and witness lists organized, act professionally, and don’t have unreasonable expectations, this is your best opportunity to get the company to assure you have a workplace free of discrimination and discriminatory harassment.

If your employer doesn’t correct the situation and it continues, or if you are retaliated against by a demotion, termination, cut in pay/hours, or something that affects you in the wallet, it’s time to talk to an employment attorney in your state. The work you did to prepare for your meeting won't have been wasted. You'll be ready for your meeting with the lawyer. Hopefully you'll have enough ammunition to convince the attorney that they can sue your employer's socks off.

16 comments:

  1. This is quite possibly the best advice on thsi topic I've read. I quoted you over BNET

    Boy, would things change if everyone followed your advice.

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  2. I'm so glad you found it helpful! I appreciate your quoting me. Maybe, if we spread the word about people's rights and responsibilities, more people will preserve their right to sue if the employer doesn't address the situation promptly and effectively.

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  3. I have seen a lot of information on the web for employers who must deal with disgruntled employees and how to avoid litigation. Likewise, there is plenty of advice on how to document discrimination and retaliation. I have not found anything about how an employer should proceed if it learns, beyond any doubt, that a good employee was fired for an illegal reason.
    Once a lawsuit starts, is a fair settlement beyond reach? Are apologies and reinstatement routinely forbidden by the insurance company covering the employer's legal expenses?

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  4. There's absolutely nothing that stops an employer from offering reinstatement with back pay and an apology to settle. I almost never see this happen. I think lots more cases could settle with an apology but employers don't like to do it.

    If the employee wins, the court can order reinstatement and back pay, but can't order an apology. It's one of those things an employee can only get in a settlement.

    The sad truth is that employers, or maybe their lawyers, never like to admit they were wrong. They dig in their heels and stick with their position even if they learn they made a mistake.

    Why? I don't know. It's one of those things I've wondered about for 25 years, since I got into this area of practice.

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    1. I was being harassed in my work... and one of my co workers (our expediter) told me that the HR said that if we will not settle things with the harasser both of us will get fired I know its not fair but can the employer do does things???

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    2. Hi LJN. It probably depends. If you reported illegal harassment then they can't fire you for reporting it, but if it's general harassment then they can fire you both if you don't work it out because general harassment isn't illegal. You might want to talk to an employment lawyer in your state about this.

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    3. It is illegal for my manager and HR to force me to meet with them? My manager asked to speak with me with HR present, I declined because I had a prior incident with them that made me feel uncomfortable. My manager stated that if I didn't meet with him and HR then I had to leave work early. I told him that without proper representation I would not speak because I didn't want to incriminate myself. He said in quote "You are just an employee you dont have that right." Now I feel more uncomfortable going to work.

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  5. As a landlord, I've avoided most litigation through open communication with tenants and compromise. As a parent, I got a fair settlement for my injured child by not being greedy on his behalf. I never hired lawyers and never regretted it.
    As a an employee with several years of stellar reviews and no disciplinary action, I reported a dangerous practice to my medical director and was abruptly terminated. The CEO refused to meet with me, so I sued. Later, when I was able to prove that the reasons for my termination were false, the CEO said they weren't allowed to re-hire me because of the lawsuit. Her claim is that the insurance company will drop their coverage if I come back. Does that sound plausible to you?
    I won a defamation suit against the VP and now there is going to be a second jury trial on the whistleblowing charges. A lot of previously suppressed evidence will be made public. This seems like such a train wreck, and their stubborness just doesn't make sense. I've come to accept that I won't get an apology, but after four years, I still don't get it.

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  6. Seems unlikely to me, but these are all things you should be discussing with your attorney. Ultimately the court can probably order reinstatement.

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  8. Hello. My name is Tim. I work a major drink company in the US and I was in an accident at work last year (March 2011) and injured my shoulder. 2 surgeries later I have a permanent restriction of no overhead work now due to my disabled shoulder; it will never be the same. Now I sit around the office, like a secretary, and cut shelf tags (They like to call it “arts and crafts time with Mrs. Timmy). I have been experiencing harassment about this issue since around (April 2011). People call me a “bitch”, Mrs. Timmy, cripple, and other embarrassing names DAILY. This takes place in front of everyone, including supervisors, who also take part in it. In July we had sexual harassment training, but nothing was touched on about other harassment, for example the disabled. While HR was in town for the meeting, someone called me Mrs. Timmy, and HR laughed and said after the meeting they couldn’t call me that anymore. But it still happened. Recently, they requested I go back out on a truck and carry a ladder with me to be able to step up and reach cases without reaching overhead. This seems like a liability and hazard given the fact if it happens to be raining or snowing. On top of that, people are having a field day with me having to carry around a ladder. They say they are going to get me a “retard” helmet. And they made a poster with a handicap kid wearing a helmet, licking a window. It also had a picture of Cartman from South Park on it when he pretended to be retarded, wearing a helmet and a stupid face, with writing saying durrrrr. And finally it has a short bus on it, with our logo, turned upside down because I crashed the truck in my accident. It also had a banner on it saying DON’T FALL OFF YOUR LADDER. This was printed out and placed in all of the employees mailboxes, and hung on the wall. In addition, my direct supervisor printed out a sheet of helmets, he google searched for “helmets for disabled children”, the main one a pink helmet with a princess on it, but also a fire helmet, and other. He told me I could pick out my own. I informed HR I was still getting harassed, so they called the dm’s (supervisors) who took down the papers, but also had an extreme attitude and disgust towards me, and also barely spoke to me. No one was disciplined, and to my knowledge none of non-management employees were even spoken to. This hostile environment at work has changed me. My wife notices it, my family and friends do as well. I am depressed, scared to go to work, dealing with anxiety, timid, and feel useless. It’s bad enough I have to change my life to accommodate this disability at home, not being able to do a lot of things a husband should do, but I have had to deal with this for over a year. I can’t take it anymore, and decided to reach out. If it continues, should I contact HR again, even those this was the second time I have, and it doesn’t seem to be helping? I TRY to save face and laugh it off while they do this, but I have been serious and have told them it’s not my fault. I have been prescribed Xanex for a while now because I told the doc I was anxious and couldn’t sleep. I didn’t tell him it was because I was terrified to go to work. Any advice is tremendously appreciated. I am a 26yo male if this helps.

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  9. Hi twr. It sounds like it might be time to talk to an employment lawyer in your state. You might have to take the next step (probably EEOC) if HR won't do anything.

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  10. My wife works for a large company as a CSR, and she has just gotten suspended for reporting that another employee has been doing illegal drugs. The company stated that she was being suspened because they were investigating to see if this was retaliation on her part due to her attendance issues she has had due to injuries sustained from a vehicle accident 2 years ago and she had to miss work due to a back injury. She has had her doctor write a statement that says she has these issues and might need to miss work due to this. The HR department denied the statement and has now been harrasing her when she is in pain. The employee who she made the statement about is not a supervisor nor has any authority at the company and is also a CSR. Is the supension on the employers part considered retalition as their reasons behind the suspension are unfounded.

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    1. Hi Mike. It sounds like she might have ADA or FMLA claims. Unfortunately, reporting a coworker's illegal activity is usually not protected whistleblowing. You might check with an employment lawyer in your state for some advice.

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  11. if i have a discriminate issue with my employer, do i first need to report it to my employer and union to exhaust administrative remedies before filing with EEOC?

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  12. I've been a victim of retaliation,threatened violently by coworkers,labeled,made fun of by supervisors then fired for filling with eeoc.I have all the proof in writting as well as dates and times of action. Almost every employee refuted my claim to protect their job ,some even got raises after denying my claims. Now my eeoc investagator says he has made a mistake on my case and now he has to give the respondent more time to respond.we have already opened this case and found reasonable evidence ,now eeoc worker has to start all over from the beginning due to a error he says he made. I do not see the error and I have not received any info. On this error . Wat is ur take

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